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	<title>Comments on: Scale or Save?</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.vcdave.com/2007/08/05/save-or-scale/#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The servers we use are top of the line and well priced.  In addition, they don't charge anything for setup / upgrades, it's awesome.

http://www.softlayer.com

Great support and customer service so far.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The servers we use are top of the line and well priced.  In addition, they don&#8217;t charge anything for setup / upgrades, it&#8217;s awesome.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.softlayer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.softlayer.com</a></p>
<p>Great support and customer service so far.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://www.vcdave.com/2007/08/05/save-or-scale/#comment-1095</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post please.....</description>
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		<title>By: drive-by poster</title>
		<link>http://www.vcdave.com/2007/08/05/save-or-scale/#comment-1094</link>
		<dc:creator>drive-by poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote:
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To put this in perspective, a 100MB un-metered port delivers about 31,622 GB of data per month. On AWS, that would cost about $4,750 for storage and a little less than $5,700 for bandwidth, per month, for a total of about $10K per month.
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That's not realistic at all. Unless you're doing something like hosting a whole mess o' steaming streaming video, how likely are you to max out your bandwidth for a solid month, or max out your storage at 31TB? 

I do see your point-- AWS can add up to a lot more than the other options, and even leasing isn't brilliant costwise. But be fair.

I totally agree with lawrence-- the upfront cost thing on a bootstrapped business is the tough part. Once you've proven to yourself that your concept has a certain amount of growth in it, and there is money coming in, you might as well go the dedicated route-- but I'd hold off on that step until you're fairly sure. Variable costs are great-- if your business isn't catching on, you can kill them.</description>
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<p>To put this in perspective, a 100MB un-metered port delivers about 31,622 GB of data per month. On AWS, that would cost about $4,750 for storage and a little less than $5,700 for bandwidth, per month, for a total of about $10K per month.<br />
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<p>That&#8217;s not realistic at all. Unless you&#8217;re doing something like hosting a whole mess o&#8217; steaming streaming video, how likely are you to max out your bandwidth for a solid month, or max out your storage at 31TB? </p>
<p>I do see your point&#8211; AWS can add up to a lot more than the other options, and even leasing isn&#8217;t brilliant costwise. But be fair.</p>
<p>I totally agree with lawrence&#8211; the upfront cost thing on a bootstrapped business is the tough part. Once you&#8217;ve proven to yourself that your concept has a certain amount of growth in it, and there is money coming in, you might as well go the dedicated route&#8211; but I&#8217;d hold off on that step until you&#8217;re fairly sure. Variable costs are great&#8211; if your business isn&#8217;t catching on, you can kill them.</p>
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		<title>By: lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.vcdave.com/2007/08/05/save-or-scale/#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that post - great stuff.  Obviously cash flow is a consideration when deciding between colo and dedicated.  We recently had to migrate from a maxed out quad core web server (which we own) to a web farm architecture.  We had every intention of buying the new box(es) outright and going the colo route - but when it came down to it, saving a couple of grand in up front cost is a pretty big deal for a boostrapped company.  We ended up leasing the new boxes.... the allure of saving the up front cash was too much to resist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that post - great stuff.  Obviously cash flow is a consideration when deciding between colo and dedicated.  We recently had to migrate from a maxed out quad core web server (which we own) to a web farm architecture.  We had every intention of buying the new box(es) outright and going the colo route - but when it came down to it, saving a couple of grand in up front cost is a pretty big deal for a boostrapped company.  We ended up leasing the new boxes&#8230;. the allure of saving the up front cash was too much to resist.</p>
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